Um… No: OTVII Edition

Someone made a comment recently that Marty Rathbun is starting to buy into his own bullshit, just like Hubbard did. And I’m starting to think that myself.

Check out Marty’s blog entry Bridge Collapse Catastrophe or Instant Karma?. There’s a scan of a success story from someone who apparently completed OT7 in 18 months. (OT7 is a very long level that requires the sucker customer Scientologist to return to Florida every 6 months to be checked. Real money maker, that one.) Again, it’s pretty clear to me that this is just an anecdotal success story. Marty’s interpretation:

After getting thoroughly exposed on this blog for using OT VII – and its endless six month check line – as a never-ending control and cash cow line, Miscavige has ordered Flag to get OT VII’s off the line in as little as eighteen months. No joke.

Um… no.

First of all, the idea that Marty “exposed” OTVII as one of Scientology’s cash cows is utter bullshit. Marty really is channeling Hubbard by laying claim to other people’s accomplishments! Ex-Scios and Independents have been complaining about the length of OTVII since long before the days when Marty helped Miscavige turn the Church into what it is now. So, Marty, STFU and stop trying to take credit for all the work that REAL protesters have done.

Second, how one derives from a single success story that David Miscavige has ORDERED things done is beyond me. It’s crazy-talk. And it hurts the legitimate protest movement, because it makes it look like the only way to oppose the organized Church is to grasp at straws.

Unless… unless… hey, wait — unless Marty is still working for the Church and is trying to make those who oppose Miscavige sound like delusional idiots! Oh my God… it’s REVERSE SCIENTOLOGY PROTESTING!!!

And to think — Tony Ortega, editor-in-chief of the Village Voice, takes this guy seriously. Really, Ton?

ML,
Caliwog

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19 responses to “Um… No: OTVII Edition

  1. There’s no question that running Marty stories in the VV pisses off the Church of Scientology so that might be Tony Ortega’s motivation as much as anything.

  2. Marty is really damaging his credibility with anyone who has half a brain and today’s 200+ comments on the subject of banking. investment and economics are just ignorant beyond belief. Even the Hubbard quotes the posters are trotting out to support their arguments show a total failure to understand economics.

    Don’t get me wrong; I think Marty’s doing a great job of enturbulating (God, I love that word!) the cult as well as giving those who still believe in the tech a place to go outside the CoS, but you can only have your intelligence insulted so many times before your head begins to hurt.

    Oh, yeah. He can’t write worth a shit, either.

    • “Oh, yeah. He can’t write worth a shit, either.”

      As Marty’s sycophants do on his blog: +1 ;D
      I agree wholeheartedly. Funny thing is, he tries to pass himself off as “self-educated” from the many books he seems to insinuate he’s read. Well, he should’ve read one on Creative Writing and done a little “cramming” in spelling, and grammar, too.
      Of course, I’m quite aware those who “believe in the faith” of $cientology will say that I’m simply “nattering.” I am pretty sure I’ve never committed an “overt” on Mahty (as Rinder would say his name); unless, criticising someone’s lack of knowledge of grammar and bad spelling is considered a SIN in the cult.

      “I joined a “religion” started by a science fiction writer, who promised to reveal the secrets of the universe and used the “double-cross” for a symbol. Then, he tried to sell me a bridge. What could’ve possibly gone wrong?!”

  3. Sorry about the off-topic post. I just had to get that off my chest.

  4. William Johnson

    One aspect of $cientology that needs more study, is it’s effect on the CONSCIENCE (yes, not consciousness). Marty’s blog exhibits perfect tidbits of folks who have either a seriously altered conscience, or none at all (like Marty). It is obvious that $cientology was designed to impress ElRon’s psyche on others,with varying effects determined by the psyche of the individual being brainwashed, but just by looking at actions by Marty and others us ‘wogs’ can plainly see the lack of a functioning conscience. Their motto should be “Do unto others, and then take off.”

    Sorry for the thread derail, I just had to say something.

    • Billy-Boy,

      No need to apologize…….(wow, i guess you HAVE a conscience) BUT…A FANTASTIC POINT you have made !!! I bet its safe to say you have never heard an **APOLOGY ** from Hubbard, Miscavige, or MARTY RATHBUN………and, I bet its safe to say – you never will – .

    • Persons with an “attachment disorder” can exhibit a lack of conscience and a host of other behaviors that I have seen in many applying-scientologists. That is an interesting effect of the “tech” that I had not thought of previously but helps in my understanding of how some really wonderful people who despite all their good intent are such assholes.

      Thanks William!

  5. The clear to OTVII in one year is great advertising for the cult, and isn’t that what it is mostly anyway? It’ll make people pay and struggle to get to clear, thinking that after that, they can glide on to super powers, like Marty’s or DM’s. And if they get stuck on the OT bridge for 15 years, they pulled it in.

    The scam is predicated on dangling promises, and then making people pay out, when they don’t get them, they’ll strive to get them, and blame themselves if they aren’t getting them.

    It is no accident that people from Tory, getting stuck on a an OT level, to “clears” that get invalidated (and must repeat certain steps to “clear”), that people start waking up at that point. It’s a final straw.

    As some people on ESMB pointed out, when DM or someone decides someone who was clear, suddenly isn’t, the reason that person often freaks out, is because DM is telling the truth. They weren’t “clear” because no one is clear.

    If “clear” were real, no one would be able to invalidate it in your mind, just by saying you aren’t clear.

    “Clear,” “super powers,” “higher IQ” are all fleeting goals, feelings that people have, and when you don’t have others affirming your feelings, they just disappear. The placebo effect is real, and it works, but it disappears or stops working in most people, without the support and affirmation of others.

    Why not a one year OT bridge? Hubbard himself researched the secret to turning the insane to sane, in seconds, with his de-insane-o-rizer stick — had the plans all drawn up — but he just couldn’t find the right oscillatory frequency. (Because he was so ahead of his time.)

  6. I think the bottom line is that it doesn’t have to be true, it just has to be agreed to. And it applies to any religion, IMO, not just Marty’s spinoff. Any time you let someone else tell you what to think, you’re opening the door to this same kind of bullshit.

    I’m just so over the whole Scientology thing from all sides. It’s in my past, and I’ve decided that it’s ok for me to leave it there.

  7. I have not spent one second in a $cientology building or spent one dime on anything $cientology, BUT, that doesn’t mean i can’t see what is really going on. It also means that I truly cannot not make heads or tails of most of the garbage that the Tubby Ole Man wrote.

    I could only get to the second paragraph of Marty’s blog entry “Bridge Collapse Catastrophe or Instant Karma?”, before my eyes started to glaze over and the ringing in my ears began.

    Just for shits and giggles, could someone, anyone please explain this paragraph Ole Tubby wrote back in the day. I’m sure it means something that could be explained in NORMAL vocabulary and prose, and means something simple, but you know ElRon, the walking talking contradiction. He was always simplifying by using acronyms and contractions, but then he would write an eight paragraph policy letter explaining how one flushes a toilet. Anyway here is the paragraph :

    “Men mimic selectively when they are unaberrated, unselectively when they are aberrated. In the case of the insane person who echoes vocally and muscularly any person before him, the mimic mechanisms of the analytical mind have been
    impinged on so heavily by engrams that unselectivity is the rule in the extreme.”

    – LRH, The Analytical Mind Oct. 1950

    Anyone ???

    thanks,
    jd

    • Hubbard is saying that if you are a Scientology Novo-peenie, you have the ability to make intelligent choices, and that raw meat is just monkey-see-monkey-do. Then he’d ask his zombies to duplicate that, and laugh at them when he left the room.

  8. Did my comment make it that I just did? Or did it go in a black hole somewhere…

    Ah well. If this is a duplicate Caliwog, please feel free to delete.

    Caliwog scribed:

    “Unless… unless… hey, wait — unless Marty is still working for the Church and is trying to make those who oppose Miscavige sound like delusional idiots! Oh my God… it’s REVERSE SCIENTOLOGY PROTESTING!!!”

    Ya think?

    Good one, Caliman – right on the money.

    I also particularly love watching MarTAY hop around on one foot trying to take credit for SPECIFICALLY AND ONLY Mike and Virginia McClaughry’s exposure of the falsity of the six-month check as being any kind of “standard tech”.

    Marty’s foot wrote:
    “After getting thoroughly exposed on this blog for using OT VII – and its endless six month check line – as a never-ending control and cash cow line…”

    versus Marty’s other foot wrote:

    [WHILE IMITATING THE MCCLAUGHRY’s with the above claim]

    ““Men mimic selectively when they are unaberrated, unselectively when they are aberrated. In the case of the insane person who echoes vocally and muscularly any person before him, the mimic mechanisms of the analytical mind have been impinged on so heavily by engrams that unselectivity is the rule in the extreme.”

    – LRH, The Analytical Mind Oct. 1950”

    Oh well, then, since Hubbard SAID it, it must be true. And then MarTAY blames Miscavige for imitating HIM. Perfect.

    But now, ole Mr. MarTAY is *not* a complete ASSHOLE at all for using just about everything the McClaughry’s did – no, no, No. That’s not it.

    He’s a SELECTIVE asshole. Ah. It’s all clear to me now. Now where’s that GMO Soybean chicken feed – it’s feeding time for the Independent Chickens.

    Thanks for listening Caliwog, my friends and I were just taking a little R&R and you’re latest blog post caught our eye.

    Tabaccanist – Robert Van Heusen
    http://tabaccanist.wordpress.com/

  9. Calliwog, what do you think of Jan Eastgate’s arrest in Australia for covering up child sex abuse in the COS?

  10. Caliwog, I’ve asked Mike McClaughry to post this for me because for some reason I think my comment may not have made it? If it, well, damn. Sorry for the duplicates, then. But at least this way, I know for sure you’ll get it. -Tabaccanist

    Caliwog scribed:

    “Unless… unless… hey, wait — unless Marty is still working for the Church and is trying to make those who oppose Miscavige sound like delusional idiots! Oh my God… it’s REVERSE SCIENTOLOGY PROTESTING!!!”

    Ya think?

    Good one, Caliman – right on the money.

    I also particularly love watching MarTAY hop around on one foot trying to take credit for SPECIFICALLY AND ONLY Mike and Virginia McClaughry’s exposure of the falsity of the six-month check as being any kind of “standard tech”.

    Marty’s foot wrote:
    “After getting thoroughly exposed on this blog for using OT VII – and its endless six month check line – as a never-ending control and cash cow line…”

    versus Marty’s other foot wrote:

    [WHILE IMITATING THE MCCLAUGHRY’s with the above claim]

    ““Men mimic selectively when they are unaberrated, unselectively when they are aberrated. In the case of the insane person who echoes vocally and muscularly any person before him, the mimic mechanisms of the analytical mind have been impinged on so heavily by engrams that unselectivity is the rule in the extreme.”

    – LRH, The Analytical Mind Oct. 1950”

    Oh well, then, since Hubbard SAID it, it must be true. And then MarTAY blames Miscavige for imitating HIM. Perfect.

    But now, ole Mr. MarTAY is *not* a complete ASSHOLE at all for using just about everything the McClaughry’s did – no, no, No. That’s not it.

    He’s a SELECTIVE asshole. Ah. It’s all clear to me now. Now where’s that GMO Soybean chicken feed – it’s feeding time for the Independent Chickens.

    Tabaccanist – Robert Van Heusen
    http://tabaccanist.wordpress.com/

    • ** Tabaccanist: Deepest apologies, your comment got caught in the spam filter and I completely missed it. It’s been a busy couple of weeks. Thanks for having it posted by Mike.

      ML,
      Caliwog

  11. Tabaccanist through Mike McClaughry

    Wrong video link for “showing”. Corrected

  12. Marty get your facts straight

    Recently Marty posted on his blog about Mosey getting a dildo sent to her at work. Only problem is, back in April he said she had quit her job to *audit* full time for Marty’s fledgling cult. Which is it? He is making up so much crap that he can’t keep his dates straight any more!

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