Here’s what Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard had to say about the “Dead Agent” PR technique:
“The technique of proving utterances false is called ‘DEAD AGENTING.’ It’s in the first book of Chinese espionage. When the enemy agent gives false data, those who believed him but now find it false kill him-or at least cease to believe him.
“So the PR slang for it is ‘dead agenting.’
“This consists of disproving utterly the false statement with documents or demonstration or display.” — LRH, HCO PL 21 November 1972, HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPOGANDA
(Ask yourself: How many legitimate religions have stuff like this in their scriptures?)
Now here’s an example of the Dead Agent technique in action, in a comment from Marty Rathbun on his own site:
I’ll add to my last comment that I know for a fact OSA has been working on a program for eighteen months which has the objective of trying to make me look as arbitrary and ruthless as Miscavige. It calls for flooding my blog with trolls, being very 1.1, inviting me to out them and ban them. That is to be followed by a hue and cry about Marty being no different than Miscavige, paranoia and all. So, with that context, all the “oh, whoa to me” business is sort of suspicious too.
See what Marty did there? He’s setting up anyone who says Marty is similar to Miscavige (which, by the way, he is) as an OSA agent (a member of the Church’s secret police). Marty’s followers don’t trust OSA, so Marty is conditioning his followers not to listen to legitimate criticism. Oh, Marty, Ron would be so proud of you! You’re doing a great job of isolating your Scientologists from the outside world.
But there’s a problem: Hubbard did say that proper dead-agenting required documented proof. I’m sure many of the people haranguing Marty do work for OSA, but many, including me, don’t. Proof that I work for OSA would be impossible to find, because it doesn’t exist. But according to Hubbard, that’s OK, because truth can be massaged to agree with your audience:
“Handling truth is a touchy business also. You don’t have to tell everything you know… Agreement with one’s message is what PR is seeking to achieve.
So PR becomes the technique of communicating an acceptable truth – and which will attain the desirable result.” — LRH, HCO PL 13 August 1970, THE MISSING INGREDIENT
And if the truth isn’t on your side, Hubbard says, then change the subject:
“You only challenge statements you can prove are false and in any conversation let the rest slide.” — LRH, HCO PL 21 November 1972, HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPOGANDA
“If there’s no chance of obtaining a desirable result and the truth would injure then talk about something else.” — LRH, HCO PL 13 August 1970, THE MISSING INGREDIENT
By the way, anyone with a clear view can tell I don’t work for the Church; I’d be declared in a second for saying what I think about Hubbard (which, for the record, is that he was a lying cheating money-grubbing narcissistic power-obsessed abusive evil sociopathic tub of shit).
But simple logic like that isn’t enough to stop the Indies from labeling anyone who speaks out against them as OSA. They’ve gone so far as to say that OSA is intentionally talking smack about Hubbard to make themselves sound like legitimate Anons. Now, anyone who has deal with Scientologists knows that’s about as likely as a born-again Christian saying Jesus had sex with young boys*. But logic doesn’t enter into the equation here.
* Which is allegedly what Hubbard said about Jesus.
To be fair, Marty may be Dead Agenting without even realizing it. The us vs. them mentality is so deeply ingrained in Scientology that most Scientologists do it without thinking. According to Hubbard, people don’t criticize something simply because see it as bad and want to speak out for the good of the community. No, according to Hubbard, if they criticize, they must have crimes*. Marty’s twist is that they work for OSA, which he sees as a crime (and I suppose he’s got a point).
* This, despite the fact that Hubbard pointed out that everyone has crimes:
“No person, company or nation has totally clean hands… in childhood, one stole a few apples, broke a window or two, dented a fender, went joy-riding in a “borrowed” vehicle or took pennies or candy bars that weren’t his own. […] One… commits various large and small sins of which society disapproves. Any of these things tend to make one vulnerable to attack.” — LRH, HCO PL 21 November 1972, HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPOGANDA
Incidentally, if you really do think the Independents are all that different from Church-going Scientologists, compare this comment chain with this video of Scientologists harranguing Mark Bunker (first video, the fun starts at 2:03). Bully bully, invalidate invalidate, and whatever you do, don’t even consider an alternate viewpoint.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go report to my boss David Miscavige. He gets so impatient when reports are late, and the last thing I need today is a right hook to the kneecap.
ML,
Caliwog
Your right that most religions (at least all those I know much about) would not dead agent, at least the teachings themselves don’t lend themselves to that, although practioners of a particular religion might…
I think its probably a bit of human nature to devalue or make someone else an “other” to make your position the only ‘rational’ choice.
For example, I grew up (and later rejected) a very hardline conservative Baptist, and there were teachings from the pulpit that (for example) Catholics weren’t going to heaven because they prayed to Mary, or that a particular denomination was wrong because of a doctrinal difference in regards to Baptism. Or heaven forfend that the Episcopals view of Grace meant that homosexuals could go to heaven … Its part of what made me part ways with the church of my youth.
I had friends who were gay, and couldnt understand how a murderer or rapist could be saved and go to heaven, but a gay person couldnt (unless of course he was properly in the closet, married, with kids and just jerking off to gay porn on the side)….
I wouldnt be surprised if some of these hard line strong arm tactics aren’t what in the end, make people wake up…. Of course there are always a certain number of sheep that like to have their thinking and reasoning done for them by someone else…
Oh, and get on those reports pronto. I believe they are always due on Thursday… hmmm… I think I will go around to all the natter sites and check and see who is getting in their “stats”….
There is still no actual *docs* that Marty is OSA, (Oh I forgot for a moment his history) but some of his actions sure tend to reinforce the possibility.
Shed the suspicion by crying OSA every time someone disagrees with him.
Kinda strange how OSA can find out everybody who ‘visits’ him so easily…wouldn’t be hard to imagine him making midnight calls to cwazy widdle davy informing him of who in $cientology 2.0 is trustworthy or not.
Marty still has a lot to answer for, and promoting himself as the victim (at least in his mind) goes a long way to deflect interest elsewhere.
Caliwog, I have no idea whether you’re OSA or a never-been or an ex or David Miscavige or Aaron what’s his name. But what puzzles me why in the world you’re so obsessed with Rathbun. Either way, it’s a man-crush of sizeable proportions. Yes, I know you don’t agree with him. But the effort you devote to posting here must take at least an hour a day. At $25/hour, that’s about five grand a year. At $100/hour, that’s twenty grand worth of effort. I dunno what your time is worth, but whatever it is that’s a serious effort. Just sayin’.
Just commented here, but comment didn’t appear. Are you now moderating comments?
Cali-wog –
You OSA Plant you!
You have to be one of the biggest “FOD”s (Friend of David’s) evar!
What’s funny is that I, myself, have written a few articles targeting the M&M Show, calling them out directly to “Come Clean”, as we were all coerced to do under L. Ron Hooover’s standard technology so he could know who to target as “SP”s, and we could all finally get into Thetan Heaven.
What’s even more funny is that he doesn’t direct any of this to anyone in particular, or anything directly. It’s all a kind of generalized “out there” kind of accusation, keeping independents hunkered down with their furrowed brows, buried into the bottom of their foxholes outside the Church.
Well, even Marty is not going to be able to control this. Once you are let free from the corral of Information Control of the Church of Scientology, even L. Ron Hubbard knew there was no stopping the Feral Ones in finding out about what he was really Up To.
Thanks for your blog. I’ve got it on robo-bot RSS feed, and I read it every day.
Keep up the great work.
Alanzo
WJ: I’ll be honest, I’d be surprised if Marty works for the Church. I heard an Egyptian man talking about the situation a couple of weeks ago, asked if he thought the government was trying to goad the people into rioting so they could declare martial law. He said something very intelligent: Sometimes people do what look like stupid things, and we search to find an intelligent reason behind them, because we figure they must be smarter than that – but in fact they are just stupid people doing stupid things. I think that’s the case with Scientology. I know enough of the tech (particularly on the Admin side) to know that to be the case – LRH wasn’t nearly as smart as he thought, and it shows in how he ran his business. Er, I mean his religion. Thought about writing a blog entry about that, and may still.
Alanzo, Lurker: Thanks for contributing and for the nice words!
ML,
Caliwog
* which is allegedly what Hubbard said about Jesus:
“For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on. let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred …” “allegedly” a snippet from HCOB 5 May 1980 by LRH.
Caliwog, you unleash documented awesome.
Alanzo,
I told you months ago, on Marty’s blog , I got lot of good informations on your blog.
I find your last articles very usefull and informative.
Thank you.
You are someone with integrity. The true one from inside
Ciao.